Fitness questions and answers for January 23, 2007

Form & Fitness Q & A

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Carrie Cheadle, MA ( is a Sports Psychology consultant who has dedicated her career to helping athletes of all ages and abilities perform to their potential. Carrie specialises in working with cyclists, in disciplines ranging from track racing to mountain biking. She holds a bachelors degree in Psychology from Sonoma State University as well as a masters degree in Sport Psychology from John F. Kennedy University.

Dave Palese ( is a USA Cycling licensed coach and masters' class road racer with 16 years' race experience. He coaches racers and riders of all abilities from his home in southern Maine, USA, where he lives with his wife Sheryl, daughter Molly, and two cats, Miranda and Mu-Mu.

Kelby Bethards, MD received a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from Iowa State University (1994) before obtaining an M.D. from the University of Iowa College of Medicine in 2000. Has been a racing cyclist 'on and off' for 20 years, and when time allows, he races Cat 3 and 35+. He is a team physician for two local Ft Collins, CO, teams, and currently works Family Practice in multiple settings: rural, urgent care, inpatient and the like.

Fiona Lockhart ( is a USA Cycling Expert Coach, and holds certifications from USA Weightlifting (Sports Performance Coach), the National Strength and Conditioning Association (Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach), and the National Academy for Sports Nutrition (Primary Sports Nutritionist). She is the Sports Science Editor for Carmichael Training Systems, and has been working in the strength and conditioning and endurance sports fields for over 10 years; she's also a competitive mountain biker.

Eddie Monnier ( is a USA Cycling certified Elite Coach and a Category II racer. He holds undergraduate degrees in anthropology (with departmental honors) and philosophy from Emory University and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business.

Eddie is a proponent of training with power. He coaches cyclists (track, road and mountain bike) of all abilities and with wide ranging goals (with and without power meters). He uses internet tools to coach riders from any geography.

David Fleckenstein, MPT ( is a physical therapist practicing in Boise, ID. His clients have included World and U.S. champions, Olympic athletes and numerous professional athletes. He received his B.S. in Biology/Genetics from Penn State and his Master's degree in Physical Therapy from Emory University. He specializes in manual medicine treatment and specific retraining of spine and joint stabilization musculature. He is a former Cat I road racer and Expert mountain biker.

Since 1986 Steve Hogg ( has owned and operated Pedal Pushers, a cycle shop specialising in rider positioning and custom bicycles. In that time he has positioned riders from all cycling disciplines and of all levels of ability with every concievable cycling problem.They include World and National champions at one end of the performance spectrum to amputees and people with disabilities at the other end.

Current riders that Steve has positioned include Davitamon-Lotto's Nick Gates, Discovery's Hayden Roulston, National Road Series champion, Jessica Ridder and National and State Time Trial champion, Peter Milostic.

Pamela Hinton has a bachelor's degree in Molecular Biology and a doctoral degree in Nutritional Sciences, both from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She did postdoctoral training at Cornell University and is now an assistant professor of Nutritional Sciences at the University of Missouri-Columbia where she studies the effects of iron deficiency on adaptations to endurance training and the consequences of exercise-associated changes in menstrual function on bone health.

Pam was an All-American in track while at the UW. She started cycling competitively in 2003 and is the defending Missouri State Road Champion. Pam writes a nutrition column for Giana Roberge's Team Speed Queen Newsletter.

Dario Fredrick ( is an exercise physiologist and head coach for Whole Athlete™. He is a former category 1 & semi-pro MTB racer. Dario holds a masters degree in exercise science and a bachelors in sport psychology.

Scott Saifer ( has a Masters Degree in exercise physiology and sports psychology and has personally coached over 300 athletes of all levels in his 10 years of coaching with Wenzel Coaching.

Kendra Wenzel ( is a head coach with Wenzel Coaching with 17 years of racing and coaching experience and is coauthor of the book Bike Racing 101.

Steve Owens ( is a USA Cycling certified coach, exercise physiologist and owner of Colorado Premier Training. Steve has worked with both the United States Olympic Committee and Guatemalan Olympic Committee as an Exercise Physiologist. He holds a B.S. in Exercise & Sports Science and currently works with multiple national champions, professionals and World Cup level cyclists.

Through his highly customized online training format, Steve and his handpicked team of coaches at Colorado Premier Training work with cyclists and multisport athletes around the world.

Brett Aitken ( is a Sydney Olympic gold medalist. Born in Adelaide, Australia in 1971, Brett got into cycling through the cult sport of cycle speedway before crossing over into road and track racing. Since winning Olympic gold in the Madison with Scott McGrory, Brett has been working on his coaching business and his website.

Richard Stern ( is Head Coach of Richard Stern Training, a Level 3 Coach with the Association of British Cycling Coaches, a Sports Scientist, and a writer. He has been professionally coaching cyclists and triathletes since 1998 at all levels from professional to recreational. He is a leading expert in coaching with power output and all power meters. Richard has been a competitive cyclist for 20 years

Andy Bloomer ( is an Associate Coach and sport scientist with Richard Stern Training. He is a member of the Association of British Cycling Coaches (ABCC) and a member of the British Association of Sport and Exercise Sciences (BASES). In his role as Exercise Physiologist at Staffordshire University Sports Performance Centre, he has conducted physiological testing and offered training and coaching advice to athletes from all sports for the past 4 years. Andy has been a competitive cyclist for many years.

Michael Smartt ( is an Associate Coach with Richard Stern Training. He holds a Masters degree in exercise physiology and is USA Cycling Expert Coach. Michael has been a competitive cyclist for over 10 years and has experience coaching road and off-road cyclists, triathletes and Paralympians.

Kim Morrow ( has competed as a Professional Cyclist and Triathlete, is a certified USA Cycling Elite Coach, a 4-time U.S. Masters National Road Race Champion, and a Fitness Professional.

Her coaching group, eliteFITcoach, is based out of the Southeastern United States, although they coach athletes across North America. Kim also owns, a resource for cyclists, multisport athletes & endurance coaches around the globe, specializing in helping cycling and multisport athletes find a coach.

Advice presented in Cyclingnews' fitness pages is provided for educational purposes only and is not intended to be specific advice for individual athletes. If you follow the educational information found on Cyclingnews, you do so at your own risk. You should consult with your physician before beginning any exercise program.

Cycling and tinnitus
Kcal, poor man's SRM?
Back of the knee pain
SLR saddles
Discomfort in the drops
Heart rate dangerously high?
Hip movement while in the drops
Crude VO2 max measurement

Cycling and tinnitus

My ears have been "ringing" for 6 years, and the one specialist I went to never asked me about cycling, and I didn't think to mention it. Now a buddy of mine has had a tinnitus diagnosis, and cycling was listed amongst various causal factors. Of the basic list of caffeine, alcohol, and drug abuse listed, I can say that a couple of cups of coffee a day and a couple of beers/wine probably do not fall into the abuse category.

But if we are talking riding, then hyper-extending your neck for 2-3 hours a day does sound somewhat abusive. I have been riding for close to 30 years, but my intensity picked up greatly about 10 years ago. Could the sport I love really have my ears ringing?


Jon Heidemann replies:

Tinnitus is one of those medical issues that plague a lot more people than most of us realize. Unfortunately, a single direct cause has not been medically determined. The source of that sensation (cochlea) is affected by many issues in its normal function: air pressure, attitude or position of the head, temperature, cavity and tissue infections, natural and unnatural internal damage, dehydration, etc. Lately, there is some pretty substantial evidence that food allergies may play a significant role, too. These things were all mentioned by your casual investigation.

Kcal, poor man's SRM?

Do you think it is possible to have the Kcal expenditure during workout as an indication of training goal?

I have heard you can use an SRM system as an indicator for how much you need to train during each training session, for example a training ride should last for 2000 watts - when that's accomplished the training is over.

Can the same thing be achieved using accumulated Kcal from a Polar heart rate monitor?

The training session should last for 2000 Kcal, when that's accomplished the training is over. And if so, can a weekly schedule be put together to build a periodization program to peak one's performance based on Kcal?

Of course the periodization program needs to take into account at what intensity to train in and so on...but still, can Kcal be used as a poor man's SRM?


Scott Saifer replies:

The total energy output during a training session is an interesting variable but not one to build your training plan around, whether it is measured by Polar HRM or by SRM, unless your goal is simply to expend calories.

Back of the knee pain

I started getting a pain at the back of my right knee about a month ago. It started about 40 minutes into a ride, into a head wind, but spinning at about 100 revs. Oddly it doesn't seem as bad when there's more resistance.

I've seen a physio, who said the pain is in the popliteus muscle. I've been treating it with ice, massage and stretching. It seems to be getting a bit better, and is better some days than others. (I didn't ride yesterday, but it's worse today than it's been all week.)

I changed from Speedplay pedals to Time pedals about two months before the pain occurred with seemingly no problems. I can only assume this was a delayed reaction to the change, so have since changed back to my Speedplay pedals. However the knee is still not quite right.

I have been doing a bit of DIY, with a lot of kneeling and standing on ladders, if that could be a factor.

Matt Eastwood

Steve Hogg replies:

You mentioned you had changed pedals from Time to Speedplay. Speedplays are a great pedal but their major weakness in my view is that the standard baseplate has less rearward adjustment than most other pedals. You may have ended up with your less foot over the pedal than you have had in the past. Have a look at these posts on cleat and ball position and attempt to gain the cleat position recommended there.

SLR saddles

Just read Steve Hogg's post on SLRs. I am tall and lean but a bit heavier (6'3" and 85kg), and found SLR and SLR XP to be as hard as hell after an hour. The SLR XC however, I find the most comfortable saddle I've ridden. The thing I have found with SLRs (of all the aforementioned variants), is that they are mostly not straight: looking from the front the right side is higher (I have packed under the left rails to level it).

Bill McCourt
Brisbane, Australia

Steve Hogg replies:

Yeah, my backside likes the shape as well but needs a bit more padding over the long haul than the SLR provides. Weight is a funny thing. I have customers of your weight who think SLR's are a comfortable seat and don't have problems with long rides on them and others who like the shape, but like me find there is time limit to riding them.

Discomfort in the drops

I am writing in response to a post I saw from Jan 2nd. I also feel discomfort in the drops.

My back story is that I have been riding seriously for about 3 years and am more a triathlete then I am a cyclist. I really do enjoy the cycling portion of my sport and work on it as often as I can. As you know, the cycling of the triathlon event is essentially a time trial and being as aero as possible is a good thing. I currently ride a Cannodale CAAD8 and I love the ride.

I feel no discomfort in any portion of the ride, distance, strong effort, climb... nothing. Except for getting into the drops. I find that I can't stay in the drops for anything longer then about 4-5 minutes. I start to feel tired and a little winded, almost like I am not getting enough air. This is accompanied with a cramped feeling in that position. I am a larger rider, 5'11' 193lbs so perhaps I am not made to go fast.

Also I have found that the better my conditioning has become over the last several years the longer I can stay in the drops.

Cleveland, USA

Scott Saifer replies:

Discomfort in the drops is not nearly as uncommon as it should be, but it sounds like you have a relatively unique sort of discomfort. It's possible that the reason you feel like you don't get enough air is because you are actually unable to fully inflate you lungs while in that position. If your bars and low and your belly is big, this would not be too surprising.

Heart rate dangerously high?

While attending my weekly spin class during the winter, my hear rate for most of the 45 minute session ( I generally arrive early and warm up for at least 15 minutes) is between 170 and 185 unless I make a conscious effort to moderate it, and even then I try to maintain at least 170.

I recently spoke with my cardiologist and he was a bit dismayed when I told him that I got my heart rate up past 180.

I am a 39 year old male (slightly over weight currently). Should I be concerned?

The most I have ever recorded on my heart rate monitor is 196 and when I am in shape (or at least have biked most of the summer) my pulse drops to between 45-55.


Scott Saifer replies:

There is nothing wrong with getting your heart rate over 180 unless you have some other problem that might be exacerbated by the effort. Many cyclists have maximum heart rates over 200 bpm and can cruise with some degree of comfort at 180, while others will be gasping at that level.

Hip movement while in the drops

I apologize in advance for adding another question to a seemingly endless stream of positioning related questions sent to this forum.

I've read almost all of Steve Hogg's past advice, and I'm much more comfortable on my bike than I was before I started reading this forum. For instance, I set my saddle farther back enough so that I have no problem supporting my torso when I let go of my hands in the drops while riding sufficiently hard.

However, my hip starts to slide forward as soon as I let go of the bar. Is this indicative of any potential improvement on my riding position? Have I set my saddle too far back, or should I move it even farther back? Or could it be something entirely different?

Ken Sugawara
Tokyo, Japan

Steve Hogg replies:

You say that your hips slide forward when you take your hands off the drops but have no problem supporting your torso when you let go of the drops. So I assume that there is a measure of control. You let go, feel a tendency to come forward on the seat but that is controllable more or less.


Here is my problem. I am 62 years old, and I ride about 3000 miles a year. It's almost all on the road - on a Litespeed Classic. I have had the bike for 5 years. Last year I started getting terrible cramps in my quadriceps after a hard 40 mile ride. We try to average 18mph on our rides, and they are hilly.

I drink a lot of water, and take no prescription drugs -only vitamins and a baby aspirin. There has been no change in the set-up on my bike, so I am at a loss as to why I am having these bad cramps in my upper legs. It started last year, and happened again this year

Bob Connelly
Chattanooga, TN, USA

Scott Saifer replies:

Since the cramps always hit the same muscle, I'm suspicious that muscle is being overworked as the result of a bike-fit problem. Quads are called on excessively if the saddle is too low or too far forward generally.

Crude VO2 max measurement

I am interested in performing a self administered VO2 max test for cycling. I do not run so I would like to conduct it on a stationary bike. Do you have an links or suggestions on how to perform one?

Ben Badagliacca
Buffalo, NY, USA

Scott Saifer replies:

You cannot perform a true VO2 max test without some pretty fancy gas measuring equipment. You need to be able to measure the amount of oxygen in your inhaled and exhaled air while you gradually increase effort up to the VO2 max level.

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