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Chris Froome: People want to stop talking about doping now

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Cycling News
Published:
December 28, 2013, 17:35,
Updated:
December 28, 2013, 17:37
Edition:
First Edition Cycling News, Sunday, December 29, 2013
Race:
Tour de France
Chris Froome on the podium of the Tour de France

Chris Froome on the podium of the Tour de France

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Strong desire to win multiple Tour de France titles

Tour de France champion Chris Froome believes that ‘people want to stop talking about doping’ and again stated his desire to win multiple Tour de France titles.

In an interview with the Daily Telegraph that took place during a recent Team Sky training camp in Mallorca, Spain, Froome told the British publication that, “I genuinely believe people want to stop talking about doping now. They want to have someone to believe in."

Asked if he fit the bill, the British rider responded: “Well, I definitely feel a responsibility to show people the sport has changed. I understand why there are still a lot of critics, cynicism and doubters out there. Of course, no-one can actually know 100 percent if I’m clean or not, except me. And I know I am, that my results will stand the test of time.”

Froome and his Sky team faced a barrage of questions in the last 18 months. They began to increase when Bradley Wiggins began his ride to victory during the Tour in 2012 and they became more intense due to the team’s hiring of doctor Geert Leinders. The Belgian doctor has been accused of doping riders at Rabobank and is under investigation in his home country.

The USADA investigation of Lance Armstrong and the US Postal team forced the sport under an ever closer microscopic gaze with Sky requiring their staff to sign a zero tolerance doping statement. It led to several resignations from within the team staff. Froome’s march to victory in 2013 involved him winning every stage race he started before the Tour – bar Tirreno – and come July the rider and his team faced persistent questions over the credibility of their performances.

The team took the step of releasing select but not historically complete data to L'Equipe’s physiologist Frederic Grappe, who stated that the rider’s performances were consistent.

Several months on from the Tour and Froome admits that there will always be critical views of his results since a surprise second place at the 2011 Vuelta.

“We can’t force people to believe, it’s going to take time. I know I have a big responsibility but it’s not hard to be clean and to be a champion. Doping has never ever crossed my mind. It’s not an option. I’d rather go and scrub factory floors for a living than cheat to get where I am,” he told The Telegraph.

Tour de France 2014

Froome’s major objective for next season remains winning his second and Team Sky’s third straight Tour title. In 2013 Froome combined his climbing strengths with excellent performances in the time trials. Even when his team was found wanting or exposed he stood resolute in the face of several attacks before cementing his authority in the final week of the race. Despite the dominance he showed in July, he echoed the opinion of team principle Dave Brailsford in insisting that he can improve.

“I still think I can get much better. I’m obviously a decent climber but there are things I can do to improve. Like I’m not the smoothest rider. I’m rugged, all elbows and knees.

“Each time I ride a Grand Tour at the front, I’m learning.

“A lot of guys have struggled to back it up after winning the Tour. Basically, the last guy who was able to was [Lance] Armstrong and we all now know what he was doing. So there’s a bad perception around multiple winning. I want to try to change that.”

Last week it was announced that Froome had signed an improved contract with Team Sky.

Raoul Duke 9 months ago
judging by this forum, talking about doping seems to be number one. People for clean cycling want desperately to 'believe' again, but after having been burned again and again it will take years before this will happen.
GuyIncognito 9 months ago
I'll just throw this out there This is the predominant english language cycling forum/site, so as is to be expected there is a very large proportion of fans and sympathizers of Sky, as there are of Liquigas in italian forums, Movistar in spanish forums, etc So what you see here (a very large proportion of people claiming Sky are blatantly on drugs) is the tame version. The world average attitude towards Sky is much more NEGATIVE/REALISTIC (cross off one of the words as appropriate depending on your beliefs)
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
.... because Italians and Spanish are incapable of writing on an English language website?!!!!
Greg Brown 9 months ago
How often do you post on Italian, Spanish, Dutch, or Luxembourger forums Chris?
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
Never because i don't speak or write Italian, Spanish, Dutch or Luxembourgish; like most of the world. However, it's rare these days to meet someone from any of those countries that isn't 100% (or near to) fluent in English. Do i follow US forums - yes because i can use them.
Ripper 9 months ago
Boy o boy does Tossers come across a bit thick.
Chrono 9 months ago
Chris, your responses rather than stengthen the position you're trying to defend just make it ridiculous with, fpr example, all your exclamation & question marks as if it is a blatant truth that virtually every European speaks & writes fluent English. You're living in some bubble if you believe this to be true. "However, it's rare these days to meet someone from any of those countries that isn't 100% (or near to) fluent in English." I like many of us have travelled a bit & this is utter deluded rubbish.
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
well there you go then..... and the point is?
GuyIncognito 9 months ago
Off the top of my head, I can name 9 people I know who are cycling fans, italian or spanish, and frequent internet forums. One of them uses an english language forum. And he doesn't post, because he doesn't feel his english is up to it.
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
I know loads who use it.
Aapjes 9 months ago
But you only see the ones who do use it. Obviously there is self-selection going on. People who write comments on English forums are obviously able to write English sufficiently well to post. The ones who can't read English never visit those sites. The ones who can read English, but cannot write well enough will never post.
Ripper 9 months ago
Didn't take you long to make some comments about your employer's investment ...
HeckIer 9 months ago
Wow you're seriously one sad individual.
Ripper 9 months ago
What are you talking about H? I don't feel sad at all. But is this the same H that was having a total stress out over Paddy getting the boot from the UCI?
Farcanal 9 months ago
Judging by the posts on here, I don't think many of you have English as a native tongue, i.e. you're mostly yanks
Alpe73 9 months ago
That's a run-on sentence, Farcanal. To be more precise, it's a comma splice. Please accept my apology, dude, for judging your post.
Farcanal 9 months ago
No apology required. Informed criticism is always welcome. So you will also be aware that the two clauses are dependant on each other ('judging by....') which negates the rule to a large extent. Don't you think I should be allowed poetic licence on here?
Alpe73 9 months ago
Farcanal: You mean, 'dependent', dude? Or have you gone 'Yank' on us?
Farcanal 9 months ago
Yup I sure do pard'ner. Thats the problem with the yank spell check on the iPhone. If you don't spot it quickly the crafty little git changes it for you no matter what meaning is intended. I was watching for it changing 'licence' and missed that one. I love your comma splice device for remembering comma splices by the way
TheFred 9 months ago
Alpe, you have a sharp wit. I enjoy your humor, although I only understand about 37.8% of it.
cantpedal 9 months ago
I once had a visiting Prof. state that we Yanks had revolted 200 years before we could be taught proper English!
Farcanal 9 months ago
Actually, we Brits get unnecessarily snobby about it but in reality there is no proper English. Like all languages it is continually evolving. This is accelerating with the influence of txt spk (yuk) and online usage (that's t'internet for you blokes in Yorkshire).
fosse septique 9 months ago
I would love to believe but still now there are positives and there will be more with new tests being brought in. What means clean : It is not on the list !!!!!
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Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
Go Froomedog, great champion and even greater man having to handle all the baseless accusations that would psychologically destroy most other cowards on this site that hide behind anonymous pseudonyms. Now if he only "manned up" a bit and told it "how it is" rather than spout the SKY PR mantra...("Team, team team ....couldn't do it without the Team....bla bla bla".......)oh, and zipped his mouthy, fame/money grabbing missus whilst getting snapped with his "little Froome" wedged inside Lindsay Lohan , then maybe he might be more popular.
sbroaddus 9 months ago
good golly, talk about anonymous pseudonyms!... and then the trashy faux starlet reference... give it a rest already.
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
But I don't go around forums accusing winners of doping just because they don't like them, the way they ride or the dominance of the team. And I also don't produce bile after bile of horse sh1 t around "climbing Ventoux quicker than Armstrong etc etc" My post was rather light hearted (well I thought it was).....so I suggest you take your own advice.
sbroaddus 9 months ago
it's all good, i was just calling you out for the trashy LL reference... there are plenty of other places people can go for that kind of thing... if you want to call me a prude, go ahead, i'll just call you a wee bit childish.
JantonStentenan 9 months ago
Normally I would come to your rescue sbroaddus, but you're really putting a tick in my craw. It doesn't appear that it's "all good" at all. That's just what I could gather from that snarky little response that you gave. You didn't come to Lindsey Lohan's defense at all. In fact, by saying, "everythin'g cool man, I'm not really mad at you, I just sort of disagree with you, kind of" you basically just joined in with bassons and attacked her. Boy with friends like you who needs enemies. Now for you bassons. I like how you attacked sbroaddus while coming to the defence of Froomedogmillionare. Don't the seem just a wee bit similar to you? Froome always giving you some fake as s response that has nothing to do with the question you just asked him. And do you think he'll ever say he loathes Contador. No. He'll just say things like, "If I remember correctly I believe Lance was the most recent person to have won multiple Tours. I really can't think of anyone else who has done that, can you?" just hoping to get some sort of reaction out of Contador. I got news for you Froome -- it won't happen -- at least not until next July when you shall come to see that hell hath no fury like a Contador scorned. So next time bassons, when you're attacking someone on Cyclingnews, just make sure you're not defending his likeness in the same sentence.
sbroaddus 9 months ago
wow, janton (he who refers to himself as a hard man), not sure what to say, except, settle down a bit and try to enjoy the holiday season.
two20john 9 months ago
Yeah right. What was Sky's Doctor called? What about those "let's retire just as we are winning everything we ever dreamed of to spend more time with our families" or sign the guy from division 3 who won 3 premier league races who now has a bit of explaining to do to the UCI?
dsotherby 9 months ago
JantonStentenan, I think your comment got cut off because you didn't mention anything about your glorious past or how you'd crush Basson's or SBroaddus in a local 10 mile time trial. Perhaps it's implied now (i.e., it goes without saying)?
Ripper 9 months ago
Gr8t trolling!
maxmartin 9 months ago
Yep, F's popping veins are screaming "clean" champion LOL
nepetalactone 9 months ago
Try operating at his level of body fat and see what pops out!
JantonStentenan 9 months ago
I have tried to operate at those levels of body fat, and you know what pops out -- your insides as all the big French goons are having their way with you on the cobbles of the North. I'd love to see Froome bring that skinny little body over to the North -- the French would ra pe him so hard Lindsey Lohan would be laughing.
JantonStentenan 9 months ago
That's a little call back to my friend Bassons.
BikesForDays 9 months ago
Froome is clean. Until he is caught. If Lance Armstrong taught us anything it is that people have the amazing capacity to lie through their teeth! I feel sorry for anyone who believes this lame excuse for a TDF winner.
two20john 9 months ago
Absolutely. When you look at times and performances and compare them to known doping years, they don't seem any slower. The bikes haven't really changed, maybe its all the manuka honey Sky are using.
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
so do you
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
The same old drivel. How can you possibly compare times? Anyone who has ridden a bike knows that you go slower on a windy day than on a less windy day. That if its colder, you go slower because the air is denser. If you are drafting other riders, you go faster. If you have different wheels on, you go faster. If you have a lighter bike, you go faster. If you are a ligher rider, you go faster. Do you need me to go on? So unless you can show any evidence of what the exact times were for each date the hills were climbed, and are also capable of chaos theory modelling, to show scientifically, exactly how all these variables (and others) would affect riders times, then you're wasting time even posting that nonsense.
Cance > TheRest 9 months ago
On Ventoux wind surely matters on a bad day, but you cannot make the same wind excuses for every climb Froome sets a new super time at. Trees and other variables will in many cases minimize the wind. Even if climbing times can't say for certain if a rider dopes or not, it is ignorant not to acknowledge how they can atleast show indications of doped performances or not. about bikeweight, that hasnt changed much since the LA days. Especially when you consider that the bikes used by the pro's are seldom in the 6,8kg limit area. The same goes for wheels. And talking about Draft, we all know that Froome didnt take much draft during his ride up Ventoux for instance. The only draft he took was in the forest, where, honestly, draft doesnt matter at 9-10%. Atleast thats my own experience climbing Ventoux.
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
So wind matters - you agree "Every climb" - being how many others? One? Name them. Not that it proves anything, anyway. "Trees minimize wind" - errr, en Ventoux? you do know what ventoux means, right? "Show indications of doped performances" - not really. I don't see WADA and the UCI using them as evidence. "Bikeweight" - i will give you that one "Wheels" - how do you know? Give us all the details? "Draft" - unless i was watching a different race, he seemed to be drafting Porte and others for about half to 2/3 of the climb. ""Draft doesnt matter at 9-10%" - draft matters at any gradient if you're going fast - it is about breaking the air resistance gradient is irrelevant - that's why the pros all ride up the mountains in a pace line and why riders will drop back to their team leader on the slopes to let them get back on their wheel and give them a tow. I doubt your experience of riding Ventoux is really representative of the Tour De France, unless you're nairo quintana, posting under a pseudonym?
Ripper 9 months ago
Love it - Tossers is the ultimate fanboy (and employee of Sky)!
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
No - I work for Royal Mail actually. Run out of meaningful things to say, so you resort to name calling. LOL. And I think somewhere above, you accused me of coming over as a "bit thick". Read your own posts?
Ripper 9 months ago
Ah, so when you said you were an employee of Sky you were lying/joking ... duly noted. Given they are not your employer, you are quite militant about defending them - it's a zeal you might want to look into. Turn your passion into employment, so to speak. Is calling you a fanboy name calling? I thought it was a compliment!
two20john 9 months ago
"Same old drivel" go and watch any race from the last 25 years on Eurosport and spot the clean rider. All through "we are in the cleanest period ever" all the results are laden with druggies, if you think this is any different you are living in cuckoo land.
GoatHerd 9 months ago
According to yr 1st phrase Froome is clean, as he's not been caught. Then you go on & contradict yrself, at the end of yr post, implying he's not clean, though he would be, according to yr own rules. Genius!
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
Well said.....It just sums up the utter lack of intelligence and complete pr at that is Sh1 teforBrains.
Wattie 9 months ago
"If Lance Armstrong taught us anything it is that people have the amazing capacity to lie through their teeth!" That may be true, but it does not follow that everyone who says they are not doping is lying. You cannot logically infer from one person lying that another person is lying (other than when they are saying identical things about identical events - which clearly cannot be the case here).
sbroaddus 9 months ago
wattie, you are making too much sense for bikesfordays to comprehend, so he will dismiss you as crazy, and continue to convict without evidence as he pleases.
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
far too logical....!
harchibald 9 months ago
By the same token that argument doesn't exonerate the people in question. Its not unfair to recognise that in cycling, riders (definitely not just LA) have proven they have a remarkable capacity to vehemently lie through their teeth. Does that condemn Froome and SKY? No, of course not but it surely makes you a little more cautious. Thats prudent no? Anyway, Froome and SKY ring plenty of other alarm bells.
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
you talk horse sh 1t
runninboy 9 months ago
If the penalties are stiff enough doping will go away. Retroactive testing as well. If a young rider full of confidence sees that there is a 99 percent chance of him getting caught and if caught he will pay drastic penalties he will take a chance on winning clean. Make the penalties a forfeiture of all salary and endorsements and prize money for the second offense, then double it for the third. If retroactive testing is allowed for say 10 years. the chances of someone not getting caught would be near nil. Test everyone almost everyday. pay for it with the penalties. Penalize the rider, the director, the team. Make it the opposite of omerta, teammates will pressure teammates to ride clean or else.
Anonymous 9 months ago
it's sad to see all these accusation thrown at him. he showm tons of mental strenght just by not getting affected by that
sixdayglory 9 months ago
I am going to cheer for him again as cynicism is not my problem. I hope that he is right. Stand the test of time can have a change of definition a few years down the road. There may be new tests for products we don't even foresee yet, not to mention the specter of genetic doping which may or may not be already amongst the peloton. Who can back any rider for certain? I know the Tour is designed to kill off the weak and the strong will try anything to kill off the tour. I'll never swear by nthem but I just don't get worked up about it anymore. I just demand great racing for my loyalty.
GoatHerd 9 months ago
Well put.
TheBean 9 months ago
This forum is not representative of the typical cycling fan.
Anonymous 9 months ago
Definitely not. Probably more than 90% of the haters are on the clinic of the forum
TheBean 9 months ago
Haters and fans seem equally represented in these forums. The type of fan who gravitates toward a discussion forum for anything (Star Wars, football, cycling, or anything else) is a fan who has a deep emotional connection with their hobby and takes some time to voice their opinion to other fans (or haters). Typical fans watch on TV or in person, cheer their heroes, drink a couple beers, then go back to the rest of their lives without giving much care at all. Maybe they engage in some water-cooler talk or wear a replica jersey now and then. We, here, are more involved than that. Why else would we post during the off-season?
TheBean 9 months ago
If every rider, every sponsor, and every team employee would leave "no comment" as an answer to every doping question, the media would stop dwelling on doping and start focusing on racing. The questions have been asked and answered so many times that the repetition is tedious. Instead of "no comment", a more polite "We have chosen to defer all questions about doping to the authorities in charge of policing doping" might be more appropriate.
Chris Todgers 9 months ago
Like it....
Raoul Duke 9 months ago
Really like it, nice if interviews would be about the racing for a change
Eric Blais 9 months ago
Great idea. I don't understand journalist asking these questions. Do they (the journalist) think the riders will admit to anything? Come on. Ask about racing. Or go under cover and get some some real information instead of asking stupid questions.
Alpe73 9 months ago
Spot on.
biker jk 9 months ago
Yes, ignore it and it will go away. Just like Lance Armstrong's doping.
cantpedal 9 months ago
no just being realistic. If everyone confessed to the press we wouldn't need investigative agencies. If the journalist really want answers they will have to work the story not simply ask rider x if he is doping
Chemainiac 9 months ago
Absolute nonsense. Ignorance is bliss for some it seems.
cothercott 9 months ago
Just for all the doubters and cynics out there - who would you like to see winning big events? People hate riders who sit on the wheels, limit their losses in the mountains and then win time trials. So Froome attacked and distanced his rivals. People say they hate to see a dominant team. There were stages when his team (sans Porte) melted away and still he limited his losses. He won the time trials too. One of the comments above the Spaniards and Italians hate Froome and Team Sky as if that is some sort of rationale for doubting their bona fides as a team. It's the established nations (and latterly the US) that have created and colluded with doping culture. Are Sky better at it than them? Time will tell. I sincerely hope not. Mud will continue to be slung but largely out of cynicism and chauvinism. Surely what we all want is a sport that we can believe in. Teams like Sky and Garmin still have skeletons but are trying to move forwards. There will be mistakes and gaffs but surely the cynical teams are those that harbour managers and riders who are deeply tainted by the past and yet still cling on. And isn't it them we should treat with suspicion: Vinokourov, Riis, Valverde etc etc?
sbroaddus 9 months ago
indeed, well said. there are those that claim that there is no difference between an unrepentant doper like Valverde and an apologetic clean cycling promoter like Millar. those are died in the wool cynics and for them the glass is always half empty. these cynics also claim that dopers don't owe any apologies to fans, which is truly ridiculous, as dopers cheat their teammates, their fellow competitors, and every fan that expects fair competition.
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
SB - further to your "childish" comment above - I take your point, probably more crass than childish but I take your point.....damn homemade cider - note to self, only post when sober.
sbroaddus 9 months ago
L,rB, thanks for taking my point, all is forgiven... you are classier than i might've guessed.... homemade cider?! cheers!
Lance, remember Bassons? 9 months ago
Erudite, thoughtful, reasoned, intelligent post CC. However I fear for some people on this site, admitting you're pretty much right, would require to answer honest questions of themselves which I don't think most have the ability to do.
wwabbit 9 months ago
Obviously my_favourite_rider is clean. Your_favourite_rider is dirty.
styrian_chamois 9 months ago
Hm...no. Not really. Too soon.
TGeneC 9 months ago
OK, "Cycling Fans" - after over a decade of not racing, I'm getting back into Masters. I still have ride files from the late 1990's and early 2000's and know what kind of times I used to achieve on local routes. Back then I still had the fitness of a licensed USPro racer. Fast forward to today - training plan, dedicated and focused riding, much better diet that I had back in those rather penniless racing days. My times are almost as good as over 10 years ago, and I'm getting DROPPED. Power training, diet, fitness and training plans and targeted and focused training are better now than ever before. So Froome it flying up hills? Well, since he has some of the best coaching and equipment in the world, he damn well better. That's why he gets paid the big bucks - to listen, train, focus and achieve the best possible result. Can it be done without doping? Hope so, but I'm not going to waste emotion and spit vitriol just because I don't "think' it can. I don't know yet - and neither do any of you.